1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,595 On the evening of August 21st, 2004, residents of the small village of Tinley Park, Illinois 2 00:00:08,595 --> 00:00:15,680 casually gaze up to the skies and soon realize they're not alone. 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,723 A mass sighting of three strange red lights grips this tiny suburb on the outskirts of 4 00:00:20,723 --> 00:00:21,723 Chicago. 5 00:00:21,723 --> 00:00:25,005 These lights were observed by thousands of people. 6 00:00:25,005 --> 00:00:27,126 I saw three red lights. 7 00:00:27,126 --> 00:00:29,648 This was definitely not an airplane. 8 00:00:29,648 --> 00:00:33,290 It was unlike anything I'd seen before or after. 9 00:00:33,290 --> 00:00:40,815 The sighting spiral out from Tinley Park to towns all across the Chicago Southland. 10 00:00:40,815 --> 00:00:49,019 Residents are left without an explanation. 11 00:00:49,019 --> 00:00:59,626 And these lights may be part of a worldwide visitation. 12 00:00:59,626 --> 00:01:08,111 Now for the first time, witnesses are coming forward. 13 00:01:08,111 --> 00:01:18,997 With never-before-seen footage of the Tinley Park lights, this is case number nine. 14 00:01:19,998 --> 00:01:36,168 79001 Invasion, Illinois. 15 00:01:36,168 --> 00:01:39,129 Right outside our front window, we were able to see it. 16 00:01:39,129 --> 00:01:46,093 Three red lights in the sky. 17 00:01:46,093 --> 00:01:51,056 August 21st, 2004, Tinley Park, Illinois. 18 00:01:51,056 --> 00:01:56,500 In this quiet suburb just 30 miles south of Chicago, many are taking advantage of what 19 00:01:56,500 --> 00:02:00,542 they think will be a normal summer night. 20 00:02:00,542 --> 00:02:07,946 They're gathered at block parties, at barbecues, and at a local concert by rocker Ozzy Osbourne. 21 00:02:07,946 --> 00:02:12,549 The mood is festive and the skies are clear. 22 00:02:12,549 --> 00:02:13,950 But not for long. 23 00:02:13,950 --> 00:02:15,351 I got it on tape! 24 00:02:15,351 --> 00:02:20,994 I got it! 25 00:02:20,994 --> 00:02:28,879 The first of over 50 reports begin pouring into local authorities just after 7pm. 26 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:34,282 There's something strange in the skies above Tinley Park. 27 00:02:34,282 --> 00:02:39,965 Three bright red-orange lights that seem at times to be flying in a triangular formation 28 00:02:39,965 --> 00:02:43,968 and sometimes in a straight line. 29 00:02:43,968 --> 00:02:50,052 Actual video from that night shows the lights moving silently and slowly from west to east 30 00:02:50,052 --> 00:02:57,416 over the Tinley Park area, often visible for as long as 30 minutes. 31 00:02:57,416 --> 00:03:03,980 By 9pm, reports of the strange lights spread like wildfire over the Chicago suburbs. 32 00:03:03,980 --> 00:03:16,907 Tinley Park, Lake in the Hills, Oak Forest, Orland Park, Moquina, Madison, Frankfurt. 33 00:03:16,907 --> 00:03:20,910 I saw three red lights in the sky. 34 00:03:20,910 --> 00:03:26,233 They were kind of hovering in changing formations from a triangle to like a three in a row, 35 00:03:26,233 --> 00:03:27,234 like dot dot dot. 36 00:03:27,474 --> 00:03:35,759 The next thing just floated across the sky from southwest to northeast. 37 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:43,283 Here we are at the first Midwest Banked Amphitheater, formerly known as the Tweeter Center, the site 38 00:03:43,283 --> 00:03:48,526 of August 21st 2004 of Oz Fest. 39 00:03:48,526 --> 00:03:54,610 On that night, people leaving the amphitheater after the concert was over got caught in a 40 00:03:54,610 --> 00:04:00,213 traffic jam and in the traffic jam they're looking up and they see dazzling light formations 41 00:04:00,213 --> 00:04:01,214 in the sky. 42 00:04:01,214 --> 00:04:03,655 Now we know what some people might say. 43 00:04:03,655 --> 00:04:05,937 I mean, it was an Oz Fest concert. 44 00:04:05,937 --> 00:04:12,861 Of course people are going to see lights in the sky. 45 00:04:12,861 --> 00:04:16,863 The Tinley Park case should have the makings for a really interesting case. 46 00:04:16,863 --> 00:04:17,864 There's a lot of evidence. 47 00:04:17,864 --> 00:04:23,067 We've got a lot of witness testimony spread over a wide geographic area and the case is 48 00:04:23,067 --> 00:04:24,067 really fresh. 49 00:04:24,067 --> 00:04:25,068 It's current. 50 00:04:25,068 --> 00:04:30,591 And the people in Tinley Park were alone. 51 00:04:30,591 --> 00:04:33,313 This isn't just a regional mass sighting. 52 00:04:33,313 --> 00:04:37,315 The team believes this may be a worldwide event. 53 00:04:37,315 --> 00:04:43,199 A similar set of lights is captured on tape two days prior in British Columbia, Canada, 54 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:46,121 then in Minnesota. 55 00:04:46,121 --> 00:04:52,604 The day after the Tinley Park sightings, August 22nd, the lights appear in Houston, Texas 56 00:04:52,805 --> 00:04:58,008 and this actual video appears to show objects hovering over Melbourne, Australia the very 57 00:04:58,008 --> 00:05:03,571 next day. 58 00:05:03,571 --> 00:05:08,494 Triangle-shaped encounters are on the rise, joining the more traditional cigar and saucer 59 00:05:08,494 --> 00:05:12,596 shaped reports. 60 00:05:12,596 --> 00:05:18,460 Sightings of strange triangle shaped craft skyrocketed in the early 1980s. 61 00:05:18,460 --> 00:05:24,423 The military's unveiling of both the F-117 stealth fighter and the B-2 stealth bomber 62 00:05:24,423 --> 00:05:30,107 in November 1988 helped explain a number of these accounts. 63 00:05:30,107 --> 00:05:34,069 Still, many mysteries remain. 64 00:05:34,069 --> 00:05:42,074 The mysterious Belgium UFO of 1990 seen here and the Phoenix Lights Triangle of 1994 have 65 00:05:42,074 --> 00:05:44,515 become landmark cases. 66 00:05:44,515 --> 00:05:49,518 Now it's up to the team to find out if the Tinley Park Triangle is part of this greater 67 00:05:49,518 --> 00:05:54,922 phenomenon. 68 00:05:54,922 --> 00:05:59,164 October 31st, 2004, Halloween. 69 00:05:59,164 --> 00:06:02,886 The Triangle returns to the skies over Tinley Park. 70 00:06:02,886 --> 00:06:04,127 The red lights are back. 71 00:06:04,127 --> 00:06:06,769 They're over about the 80th Avenue train station. 72 00:06:06,769 --> 00:06:10,531 And again, are seen and taped by large groups of people. 73 00:06:10,531 --> 00:06:19,256 The dead speed up as close as you can get on this thing. 74 00:06:19,256 --> 00:06:21,978 The debunkers tell us these are flares. 75 00:06:21,978 --> 00:06:26,580 These are flares attached to balloons that are hovering in the air. 76 00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:32,864 Could these lights, witnessed by hundreds and maybe thousands, be simply a hoax or something 77 00:06:32,864 --> 00:06:34,425 else entirely? 78 00:06:41,549 --> 00:06:49,194 The Tinley Park investigation is underway, as several angles are explored. 79 00:06:49,194 --> 00:06:54,317 Pat Uskert is collecting video evidence from the eyewitnesses and attempting to pinpoint 80 00:06:54,317 --> 00:06:57,599 the precise locations of each sighting. 81 00:06:57,599 --> 00:06:59,680 At this point, we really need to see a lot more information. 82 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,241 I need to see more video. 83 00:07:01,241 --> 00:07:03,122 I need to talk to more people. 84 00:07:03,122 --> 00:07:05,083 We've got a lot of work ahead of us. 85 00:07:05,083 --> 00:07:11,647 Former NASA analyst Dr. Ted Ackworth will use Pat's data and the videos to scientifically 86 00:07:11,647 --> 00:07:17,891 calculate the size and speed of this object and, with this information, attempt to identify 87 00:07:17,891 --> 00:07:18,892 it. 88 00:07:18,892 --> 00:07:23,174 Are these three points of light all fixed together as part of one rigid object? 89 00:07:23,174 --> 00:07:25,976 And if so, how big is this thing? 90 00:07:25,976 --> 00:07:31,699 And Bill Burns tests an alleged hoax to see whether the lights are actually flares attached 91 00:07:31,699 --> 00:07:33,340 to balloons. 92 00:07:33,340 --> 00:07:39,024 We may not know what these lights were, but by the end of this investigation, we're sure 93 00:07:39,024 --> 00:07:41,425 going to find out what these lights were not. 94 00:07:41,425 --> 00:07:48,429 We're meeting Sam Moranto, director of Illinois Mufon. 95 00:07:48,429 --> 00:07:53,072 He's our main contact here on the ground in Tinley Park. 96 00:07:53,072 --> 00:07:55,553 Sam was the point man. 97 00:07:55,553 --> 00:07:58,995 In cop shop terms, he's the squeal man for this case. 98 00:07:58,995 --> 00:08:01,117 He takes the first call. 99 00:08:01,117 --> 00:08:03,478 When everyone saw the lights, they contacted him. 100 00:08:03,478 --> 00:08:08,241 He's actually been in touch with all the people who have the footage, the eyewitnesses, people 101 00:08:08,241 --> 00:08:13,084 who say they saw this thing in the sky, whatever it was. 102 00:08:13,084 --> 00:08:17,767 I think I probably interviewed well in excess of a hundred people. 103 00:08:17,767 --> 00:08:26,372 According to Sam, the Tinley Park events are among the best documented UFO sightings ever. 104 00:08:26,372 --> 00:08:28,533 Many people have seen UFOs. 105 00:08:28,533 --> 00:08:30,014 Rarely do they report them. 106 00:08:30,014 --> 00:08:36,738 They rarely even get so much as a picture out of most UFO cases. 107 00:08:36,738 --> 00:08:42,902 Approximately 25 to 30 videos exist, shot simultaneously from different parts of Tinley 108 00:08:42,902 --> 00:08:46,664 Park and the surrounding suburbs. 109 00:08:46,664 --> 00:08:52,908 There are still many more people to see and talk to, more footage to recover, and I think 110 00:08:52,908 --> 00:08:57,991 this case is evolving. 111 00:08:57,991 --> 00:09:00,392 This thing was seen by thousands of people. 112 00:09:00,392 --> 00:09:06,556 It did make newspapers nationally in Illinois and even around the world. 113 00:09:06,556 --> 00:09:13,480 So Pat goes right to the source, a correspondent from the local paper, The South Town Star. 114 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,161 I'm meeting with Jason Freeman. 115 00:09:15,161 --> 00:09:16,642 As a journalist, he's objective. 116 00:09:16,642 --> 00:09:18,843 He doesn't really have anything to gain from this. 117 00:09:18,843 --> 00:09:23,566 He's just interested in getting at the truth very much like we are. 118 00:09:23,566 --> 00:09:24,887 I was amazed. 119 00:09:24,887 --> 00:09:27,688 But you can never take the reporter out of yourself. 120 00:09:27,688 --> 00:09:33,051 So I immediately started to kind of get the scene. 121 00:09:33,051 --> 00:09:39,135 Those people who hadn't seen it already had their minds made up that it was what the media 122 00:09:39,135 --> 00:09:42,657 said it was, road flares or all these other explanations. 123 00:09:42,657 --> 00:09:48,621 Whereas I think the people I saw and myself included, a little more open minded. 124 00:09:48,621 --> 00:09:53,904 Jason writes a column about his own personal experience. 125 00:09:53,904 --> 00:09:58,026 I got out of my car and tried as hard as I could to get a better view of the anomalies. 126 00:09:58,026 --> 00:10:02,109 What exactly was it that I and hundreds of other Timley Park presidents saw that night? 127 00:10:02,109 --> 00:10:04,790 I'm not sure. 128 00:10:04,790 --> 00:10:08,352 In speaking with a journalist, it's important to keep in mind that he's been trained to 129 00:10:08,352 --> 00:10:13,335 just record events as they occur, as unbiased as possible. 130 00:10:13,335 --> 00:10:18,438 To my knowledge, no one ever officially explained what they were, which leads me to scratch 131 00:10:18,438 --> 00:10:23,882 my hand even more. 132 00:10:23,882 --> 00:10:29,445 The police department adamantly said that these were not weather balloons or flares. 133 00:10:29,445 --> 00:10:33,127 In fact, every other agency said the same thing. 134 00:10:33,127 --> 00:10:38,050 The FAA said this was something that they don't know what it was because it didn't 135 00:10:38,050 --> 00:10:41,892 register on their radar. 136 00:10:41,892 --> 00:10:48,176 Within 35 miles of Timley Park are Chicago O'Hare and Midway Airports. 137 00:10:48,176 --> 00:10:53,860 How could radar operators at two of the nation's busiest airports not pick up an object seen 138 00:10:53,860 --> 00:10:56,981 by so many witnesses? 139 00:10:56,981 --> 00:11:05,266 The FAA has no answer, which causes the team to rule out commercial or private planes. 140 00:11:05,266 --> 00:11:11,030 Perhaps the best evidence may lie in the video. 141 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:16,313 This is a unique scenario because we have so much very good footage. 142 00:11:16,313 --> 00:11:22,557 Sam has at least 15 distinct pieces of videotape that capture the bizarre phenomena. 143 00:11:22,557 --> 00:11:28,680 This was the August 21, 2004 sighting, mass sighting. 144 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:33,083 This segment of footage is from Hope Forest. 145 00:11:33,083 --> 00:11:36,325 I don't know what that is. 146 00:11:36,325 --> 00:11:39,447 I wonder how many more there are going to be, but you know what, that was really cool 147 00:11:39,447 --> 00:11:40,928 when it was the three of them. 148 00:11:40,928 --> 00:11:41,928 I don't know. 149 00:11:41,928 --> 00:11:45,971 Do you really think we should call and report this? 150 00:11:45,971 --> 00:11:52,695 Three miles to the southwest in Timley Park proper, another witness, TJ Javkan, shoots 151 00:11:52,695 --> 00:11:54,856 this footage of the lights. 152 00:11:54,856 --> 00:11:55,857 Are you recording this? 153 00:11:55,857 --> 00:11:57,738 Yeah, I am. 154 00:11:57,738 --> 00:12:05,342 While he's shooting footage further southwest, they're shooting footage in the northeast, 155 00:12:05,342 --> 00:12:09,465 so they're actually shooting the same phenomena simultaneously. 156 00:12:09,465 --> 00:12:10,465 This is great. 157 00:12:10,465 --> 00:12:17,189 The same triangulation on one phenomena that both cameras took up. 158 00:12:17,189 --> 00:12:25,074 From every angle, in every neighborhood, eyewitness video captures the lights in the same triangular 159 00:12:25,074 --> 00:12:27,996 formation. 160 00:12:27,996 --> 00:12:32,919 The various lights almost stayed rigid with respect to each other as they moved through 161 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:33,919 the sky. 162 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:37,081 Do flares do the same thing? 163 00:12:37,081 --> 00:12:41,644 I think it would be premature to jump into this and say we're looking at some sort of 164 00:12:41,644 --> 00:12:46,166 huge extraterrestrial phenomenon or giant craft over at Timley Park. 165 00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:50,889 What we have is three points of light in the sky, and I'd like to keep it right there until 166 00:12:50,889 --> 00:12:56,333 I get more information. 167 00:12:56,333 --> 00:13:01,335 Skeptics claim there is an ordinary explanation for the Timley Park sightings, but the multiple 168 00:13:01,335 --> 00:13:03,617 witnesses don't agree. 169 00:13:03,617 --> 00:13:11,141 Herebefore seen footage from that night may finally provide the answer. 170 00:13:11,141 --> 00:13:14,663 I knew it wasn't a plane or aircraft of any kind that I've ever seen. 171 00:13:14,663 --> 00:13:19,426 There was no noise, so we were kind of amazed and just started to think what it could be, 172 00:13:19,426 --> 00:13:24,149 and I really have no answer for that. 173 00:13:24,149 --> 00:13:30,433 The team is in Timley Park, Illinois, investigating multiple appearances of an alleged triangle-shaped 174 00:13:30,433 --> 00:13:31,433 UFO. 175 00:13:31,794 --> 00:13:37,357 Hundreds, if not thousands of people, from lawyers and doctors to concertgoers, claim 176 00:13:37,357 --> 00:13:46,843 to have seen three strange reddish lights in the sky on two separate nights in 2004. 177 00:13:46,843 --> 00:13:48,644 One witness, two witnesses, that's not enough. 178 00:13:48,644 --> 00:13:53,086 We need to get as many witnesses as possible, look at as much evidence as possible, analyze 179 00:13:53,086 --> 00:13:57,569 as many videos as possible, and from there put a picture together. 180 00:13:57,569 --> 00:14:03,813 It heads out to meet with TJ Japkhan, an eyewitness who was able to capture the alleged UFO on 181 00:14:03,813 --> 00:14:07,295 video. 182 00:14:07,295 --> 00:14:13,378 While Bill meets with Ted to find out what else might be flying over Timley Park. 183 00:14:13,378 --> 00:14:18,541 One question I always have when we have sightings of lights overhead at night is what's going 184 00:14:18,541 --> 00:14:23,184 on with commercial airliners and maybe even military aircraft operations. 185 00:14:23,184 --> 00:14:27,707 If we can rule out those kinds of aircraft, that leaves a lot of evidence on the table 186 00:14:27,707 --> 00:14:31,789 that might lead to something anomalous. 187 00:14:31,789 --> 00:14:37,673 Situated within 30 miles of both Chicago O'Hare and Midway Airports, the skies above 188 00:14:37,673 --> 00:14:43,356 Timley Park are some of the most congested airspace in the United States. 189 00:14:43,356 --> 00:14:48,319 The air is filled with commercial and private aircraft that could be mistaken for something 190 00:14:48,319 --> 00:14:51,241 extraterrestrial. 191 00:14:51,641 --> 00:14:57,245 According to the team, the strange object might also be a misidentified military craft. 192 00:14:57,245 --> 00:15:00,246 But they feel this explanation is unlikely. 193 00:15:00,246 --> 00:15:03,928 There is a military operation area way to the north here. 194 00:15:03,928 --> 00:15:06,890 It's about roughly 100 miles away. 195 00:15:06,890 --> 00:15:10,332 And there's another one way to the southeast also on the order of 100 miles. 196 00:15:10,332 --> 00:15:14,655 So I wouldn't say, A, there's no military operation area and B, you're not going to 197 00:15:14,655 --> 00:15:19,538 get the military operating right in the middle of this massive international commercial airspace 198 00:15:19,738 --> 00:15:23,220 without causing a lot of trouble. 199 00:15:23,220 --> 00:15:29,864 Still, Bill tries to get some kind of official statement from the military on the Timley 200 00:15:29,864 --> 00:15:31,745 Park phenomenon. 201 00:15:31,745 --> 00:15:37,068 He contacts the group commander, a senior military official at nearby Scott Air Force 202 00:15:37,068 --> 00:15:38,069 Base. 203 00:15:38,069 --> 00:15:41,631 Yes, hi, I'm Bill Burns from UFO Hunters and UFO Magazine. 204 00:15:41,631 --> 00:15:47,675 I'm calling in reference to the August 21st, 2004 lights over Timley Park. 205 00:15:47,675 --> 00:15:53,758 I'm going to find out what traffic the military had that night. 206 00:15:53,758 --> 00:15:56,760 You have no information about that. 207 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,761 I understand. 208 00:15:57,761 --> 00:15:59,281 I understand. 209 00:15:59,281 --> 00:16:05,445 According to the official Air Force response received by UFO Hunters, quote, we do not 210 00:16:05,445 --> 00:16:08,487 have any documentation on this at all. 211 00:16:08,487 --> 00:16:14,731 Due to the high turnover of military personnel that have left since 2004, we don't have anyone 212 00:16:14,811 --> 00:16:18,333 that could possibly speak on this. 213 00:16:18,333 --> 00:16:21,335 Now we've got to get to the witness locations. 214 00:16:21,335 --> 00:16:22,655 We have to interview the witnesses. 215 00:16:22,655 --> 00:16:28,099 The more videos we have and the more witness statements we can get, the more scientific 216 00:16:28,099 --> 00:16:33,942 data we can get over to TED to analyze on the workbench to see what we really have in 217 00:16:33,942 --> 00:16:38,785 front of us. 218 00:16:38,785 --> 00:16:43,788 I saw three red lights that were slowly hanging in the sky. 219 00:16:43,828 --> 00:16:46,349 It was the most incredible thing I had ever seen. 220 00:16:46,349 --> 00:16:47,830 I've never seen anything like it before. 221 00:16:47,830 --> 00:16:51,793 I've never seen anything like those lights. 222 00:16:51,793 --> 00:16:56,516 10.45 p.m. August 21st, 2004. 223 00:16:56,516 --> 00:17:02,959 TJ Japkhan and Dave Wagner are at a block party with approximately 70 friends and neighbors. 224 00:17:02,959 --> 00:17:07,802 They have no idea that their party is about to have some uninvited guests. 225 00:17:08,803 --> 00:17:10,804 Come on camera, get me some. 226 00:17:10,804 --> 00:17:13,806 My son had seen three lights come off right above the trees. 227 00:17:13,806 --> 00:17:14,806 Are you zoomed in all the way? 228 00:17:14,806 --> 00:17:15,807 Yeah, Jake, look at that. 229 00:17:15,807 --> 00:17:16,808 Can we peek? 230 00:17:16,808 --> 00:17:18,809 Okay, look at you guys. 231 00:17:18,809 --> 00:17:19,809 It's a UFO. 232 00:17:19,809 --> 00:17:23,812 Someone's saying UFO and I did turn around finally and I saw them like, what in the world are 233 00:17:23,812 --> 00:17:24,812 these things? 234 00:17:24,812 --> 00:17:26,814 We've just never seen anything like that before. 235 00:17:26,814 --> 00:17:28,815 Everybody was just staring at it. 236 00:17:28,815 --> 00:17:29,815 It just floated across the sky. 237 00:17:29,815 --> 00:17:32,817 It's three red lights and like a triangle. 238 00:17:32,817 --> 00:17:39,821 TJ gets his video camera and manages to capture the object on tape for an incredible 18 minutes. 239 00:17:41,823 --> 00:17:43,824 It's definitely not a helicopter. 240 00:17:43,824 --> 00:17:45,825 It's going too slow for helicopters too. 241 00:17:45,825 --> 00:17:47,826 It's going right over us. 242 00:17:47,826 --> 00:17:52,829 As they watch, they believe the object is maneuvering in ways beyond the capacity of 243 00:17:52,829 --> 00:17:54,830 conventional aircraft. 244 00:17:54,830 --> 00:17:58,833 It took about 15 or 20 minutes to move from here to over there. 245 00:17:58,833 --> 00:18:02,835 Then it stayed stationary for a little while and then it crawled again. 246 00:18:02,835 --> 00:18:04,836 So it actually stopped at one point? 247 00:18:04,836 --> 00:18:05,837 It stopped, yeah. 248 00:18:05,837 --> 00:18:09,839 So it moved across the sky, stopped, and then it continued moving. 249 00:18:09,839 --> 00:18:10,840 Yeah. 250 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:11,840 Wow. 251 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:17,844 The slow pace and stationary hovering of the object is highly inconsistent with typical 252 00:18:17,844 --> 00:18:21,846 aircraft flight behavior and these locals know it. 253 00:18:22,847 --> 00:18:29,851 When a police officer stops by the block party, he is bombarded with questions about the object. 254 00:18:29,851 --> 00:18:33,853 We had stopped them and we asked him what was going on and he goes right now, he goes, 255 00:18:33,853 --> 00:18:34,854 I can't talk. 256 00:18:34,854 --> 00:18:38,856 He has to get back to the station because the station, Tinley Park Police Station, was 257 00:18:38,856 --> 00:18:39,857 being inundated with phone calls. 258 00:18:39,857 --> 00:18:40,858 Yeah. 259 00:18:40,858 --> 00:18:41,858 So everybody was calling the cops. 260 00:18:41,858 --> 00:18:43,859 Everyone was calling the police. 261 00:18:43,859 --> 00:18:47,862 UFO hunters contacted the Tinley Park Police Station for a statement. 262 00:18:47,862 --> 00:18:53,865 The officer in charge had no comment on the case, but their own incident dispatch report 263 00:18:53,865 --> 00:18:57,868 shows they did receive calls of red lights in the sky that night. 264 00:19:00,870 --> 00:19:05,873 After half an hour, the object slowly disappears into the night. 265 00:19:05,873 --> 00:19:08,874 Whoa, where'd it go? 266 00:19:08,874 --> 00:19:10,876 Where'd it go? 267 00:19:10,876 --> 00:19:11,876 Gone. 268 00:19:12,877 --> 00:19:19,881 But around 11.30 p.m., TJ and Dave have another sighting, a single red point of light that 269 00:19:19,881 --> 00:19:23,883 follows the same path as the object seen earlier. 270 00:19:23,883 --> 00:19:24,884 Oh, come on. 271 00:19:24,884 --> 00:19:27,886 Kurt, they're back. 272 00:19:27,886 --> 00:19:29,887 The UFOs are back. 273 00:19:29,887 --> 00:19:33,889 This time, Dave is ready. 274 00:19:33,889 --> 00:19:36,891 He has a high-powered telescope in hand. 275 00:19:36,891 --> 00:19:40,893 I didn't see any sides or anything, but from the naked eye, it looked like one dot in the 276 00:19:40,893 --> 00:19:47,898 sky, but through the telescope, it looked oval-shaped with about 10 or 12 red lights around it. 277 00:19:48,898 --> 00:19:52,901 Pat collects TJ's video and other data for Ted to analyze. 278 00:19:52,901 --> 00:19:57,904 He uses a GPS locator to plot the precise location of the sighting. 279 00:19:57,904 --> 00:20:03,907 Next, a clinometer helps establish how far off the horizon the alleged UFO appeared to be. 280 00:20:03,907 --> 00:20:09,911 Finally, compass readings pinpoint the trajectory of the UFO across the sky. 281 00:20:12,912 --> 00:20:18,916 Definitely, the footage that TJ just showed me is very similar to the footage I saw earlier with Sam. 282 00:20:18,916 --> 00:20:25,920 These are definitely videos of the same event, the same lights over Tinley Park, whatever they were. 283 00:20:26,921 --> 00:20:28,922 What was this object? 284 00:20:28,922 --> 00:20:30,923 What was its size? 285 00:20:30,923 --> 00:20:33,925 And how far away was it from the witnesses? 286 00:20:33,925 --> 00:20:36,927 Or was it an object at all? 287 00:20:40,929 --> 00:20:45,932 In order to complete the triangulation, Ted will need data from one final location. 288 00:20:45,932 --> 00:20:52,936 With this information, he can also start estimating the size and speed of what these people were seeing, 289 00:20:52,936 --> 00:20:55,938 and perhaps even identify it. 290 00:20:56,939 --> 00:21:04,943 That same night, Bob Peterson is with his children in his backyard when he sees the same triangle-shaped object. 291 00:21:04,943 --> 00:21:08,946 Austin, go ask Mom for the telephone. I want to call somebody. 292 00:21:08,946 --> 00:21:11,948 What made you take notice of these lights? 293 00:21:11,948 --> 00:21:14,949 I just happened to look up and there were three red lights in the sky. 294 00:21:14,949 --> 00:21:16,951 It was definitely an odd thing to see. 295 00:21:16,951 --> 00:21:19,952 We are kind of in a play pattern here from Midway Airport. 296 00:21:19,952 --> 00:21:22,954 There's a lot of activity as far as planes are concerned. 297 00:21:22,954 --> 00:21:26,957 So at first I did think there were helicopters, but as they got closer, I mean they were dead silent. 298 00:21:26,957 --> 00:21:28,958 There was just no noise coming from them. 299 00:21:28,958 --> 00:21:31,960 So at that point, it wasn't a helicopter. 300 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,960 How about airplanes? 301 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,961 No, it's way too slow. 302 00:21:34,961 --> 00:21:40,965 Despite his sighting, Bob is not convinced that he has seen anything extraordinary. 303 00:21:40,965 --> 00:21:45,968 My opinion is there are some type of hoax put on. I don't know what it would be. 304 00:21:46,968 --> 00:21:53,973 Bill Dooley, Bob's friend and neighbor, also witnesses the lights, but his reaction is very different. 305 00:21:53,973 --> 00:21:59,976 We actually had a high-powered telescope back here at the time and one of our friends got right on it. 306 00:21:59,976 --> 00:22:03,979 But he said it looked just like we're seeing it with our naked eye. 307 00:22:03,979 --> 00:22:07,981 I thought it was something, you know, some kind of flare or something like that. 308 00:22:07,981 --> 00:22:11,983 We thought about that, that you would see some kind of smoke and we didn't. 309 00:22:12,984 --> 00:22:17,987 Again, Pat takes the crucial location data for both Bob and Bill's sightings. 310 00:22:19,988 --> 00:22:25,992 With three distinct locations, his data compilation is complete and ready to send to Ted. 311 00:22:25,992 --> 00:22:31,995 But before Ted comes to any kind of conclusion, the team has a critical experiment to perform. 312 00:22:31,995 --> 00:22:36,998 One that will put them directly into the eye of the storm. 313 00:22:42,001 --> 00:22:49,005 If it was a hoax, they did a really good job. Whoever created the hoax, that's all I could say. 314 00:22:50,006 --> 00:22:58,011 Skeptics ender bunkers claim that the three bright red lights seen by hundreds of witnesses in the skies above Tinley Park, Illinois, 315 00:22:58,011 --> 00:23:02,013 are nothing more than flares attached to weather balloons. 316 00:23:02,013 --> 00:23:07,016 But those who actually saw the lights with their own eyes hold a different opinion. 317 00:23:08,017 --> 00:23:14,020 My son and I were on the phone together watching the UFO. 318 00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:19,023 Planes, flights, normally flash, but these lights didn't flash. 319 00:23:19,023 --> 00:23:22,025 It was exciting and it was disturbing. 320 00:23:26,027 --> 00:23:30,030 Dr. Ted Ackworth has worked for NASA's Flying Imaging Aircraft program. 321 00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:36,033 He is joined by Terrence Masson, an image processing expert from Northeastern University. 322 00:23:38,035 --> 00:23:45,039 They begin by analyzing footage shot by TJ Jabgon on August 21, 2004. 323 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:53,044 Ted feels it has the highest image quality of the nearly 30 pieces of video UFO hunters have collected. 324 00:23:54,044 --> 00:24:01,048 My first thought was it was going to be necessary to stabilize because these are shot by normal people background, 325 00:24:01,048 --> 00:24:05,051 hand held, so we've got this kind of swimming motion. 326 00:24:05,051 --> 00:24:07,052 Sure. That's pretty typical. 327 00:24:07,052 --> 00:24:19,059 Once we've done that, I was able to then pick one of the three lights and translationly pin that so that all the related emotion is basically locked around that point. 328 00:24:19,059 --> 00:24:27,064 Having stabilized one point of the three, Ted and Terrence are able to see how the other two points move around it. 329 00:24:27,064 --> 00:24:30,066 Are they free-floating or locked in place? 330 00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:40,072 To me, and the numbers bear it out, that it does look like the other two trailing points are locked to that third nodal point in rotating. 331 00:24:40,072 --> 00:24:51,078 So either they're fixed to the same physical structure, you know, a triangular craft, or if it's man-made, they have to be some kind of eye-beam, some kind of physical connection. 332 00:24:52,079 --> 00:25:00,083 If the lights are all connected, why do they sometimes appear as a triangle and other times appear as a straight line? 333 00:25:00,083 --> 00:25:03,085 Is the object shape-shifting? 334 00:25:03,085 --> 00:25:07,088 Ted and Terrence's analysis shows that's not the case. 335 00:25:07,088 --> 00:25:17,094 The most likely answer is, as the attached lights move in the sky, the only thing that shifts is the viewer's perspective. 336 00:25:18,094 --> 00:25:26,099 To my eye, it appeared that those three lights seem to be locked together geometrically, and his analysis agreed with that. 337 00:25:26,099 --> 00:25:33,103 We now quantitatively know that those three points of light are locked in space together. 338 00:25:35,104 --> 00:25:45,110 Ted and Terrence still cannot determine whether there is a solid triangular craft with a light on each point, or three individual lights that are somehow able to rotate together. 339 00:25:46,111 --> 00:25:56,117 One segment of TJ's footage from October 31, 2004 shows a conventional aircraft, a helicopter, flying near the triangle shape. 340 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:11,126 The team contacted all local airports, the FAA, Pilots of America, and numerous other aviation organizations in hopes of finding the pilot. 341 00:26:12,126 --> 00:26:18,130 One pilot responded, saying he had been in the air and saw something strange that night. 342 00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:23,133 When asked for an interview, he refused, claiming he feared for his job. 343 00:26:27,135 --> 00:26:33,139 I'm hoping we can get a sense of the overall size. Is this thing 10 feet across or a quarter mile across? 344 00:26:34,139 --> 00:26:45,146 We could take the height of that helicopter image in this frame and compare that to the height of the lights and calculate the distance between those two lights. 345 00:26:45,146 --> 00:26:52,150 Because spatially, just in the imagery itself, it's probably about 30 times the linear width of this helicopter. 346 00:26:52,150 --> 00:26:53,151 That's getting up to 1,000 feet. 347 00:26:53,151 --> 00:26:55,152 1,000 feet as opposed to the width of the helicopter. 348 00:26:56,153 --> 00:27:05,158 So based on this method, I think we're in the ballpark of 1,000 plus feet in separation between these three lights. 349 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:15,164 With their estimate of 1,000 feet between the points of light, Ted and Terrence plug in the location data that Pat has gathered from the eyewitnesses. 350 00:27:16,165 --> 00:27:20,167 The GPS locator pinpoints each sighting on the map. 351 00:27:20,167 --> 00:27:27,171 The clinometer reading reveals the angle of elevation or how high off the horizon the lights appear to be. 352 00:27:28,172 --> 00:27:33,175 Compass readings indicate in which direction the alleged UFO is traveling. 353 00:27:34,175 --> 00:27:40,179 Without this additional information, no true estimate of the size of the object can be made. 354 00:27:41,179 --> 00:27:52,186 Based on the clinometer and compass readings, the witnesses all appear to have seen the same object to the west and low to the horizon between 5 and 10 degrees. 355 00:27:56,188 --> 00:28:08,195 And we know from the footage here from TJ, which is taken from here looking in that direction at about roughly a 10 degree elevation, that our object is approximately that distance away from TJ. 356 00:28:08,195 --> 00:28:10,197 And we figured that was about 2 and a half miles. 357 00:28:11,197 --> 00:28:24,205 If the unknown object is 2 and a half miles away at an average of 7 degrees off the horizon and with 1,000 feet between each point of light, then they can estimate its total size. 358 00:28:25,206 --> 00:28:29,208 I think 1,500 is a pretty good estimate, plus or minus a couple of feet. 359 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:32,210 It's definitely not the distance from wingtip to wingtip of anything that... 360 00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:33,210 Absolutely not. 361 00:28:33,210 --> 00:28:39,214 And I don't know any structure that you could fly that could hold lights 1,500 feet apart. 362 00:28:39,214 --> 00:28:50,221 To the best of their knowledge, the alleged UFO over Tinley Park is one object several thousand feet in the air and about 1,500 feet from end to end. 363 00:28:52,222 --> 00:28:59,226 To put that into reference to something we might know, think of a 747 or the newer A380 aircraft. 364 00:28:59,226 --> 00:29:02,228 Those are about 200, 250 feet in wingspan. 365 00:29:02,228 --> 00:29:08,231 So we would have to stack up about six of these to get the span that we're seeing from our evidence in this case. 366 00:29:08,231 --> 00:29:10,232 And that's just beyond that. 367 00:29:10,232 --> 00:29:13,234 That's like 6X the largest aircraft that we have. 368 00:29:21,239 --> 00:29:27,243 Based on all of this evidence, the video, the spatial recreation, the estimation of motion, the image processing. 369 00:29:28,243 --> 00:29:36,248 I don't know what it is. There's definitely something out there of this 1,500 feet span, but I have no idea what it might be. 370 00:29:45,253 --> 00:29:46,254 This could be an elaborate hoax. 371 00:29:46,254 --> 00:29:49,256 People say that they were red flares in the sky. 372 00:29:49,256 --> 00:29:52,257 I don't think that it was some type of a spacecraft. 373 00:29:53,258 --> 00:30:00,262 There just wasn't any evidence to me that it was anything other than three lights that were not connected. 374 00:30:02,263 --> 00:30:11,269 Although there's never been an official explanation for the lights over Tinley Park, there are some people who believe that these were nothing more than flares tied to balloons. 375 00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:14,271 And it's an interesting theory, one that we have to test. 376 00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:15,271 So that's what we're doing here today. 377 00:30:15,271 --> 00:30:24,277 We're actually going to set some balloons with flares aloft and see if they look anything like the Tinley Park footage from 2004. 378 00:30:24,277 --> 00:30:39,285 Cleared by local authorities, the test will allow the team to compare the color and intensity of the flares, as well as the way the balloons and flares move in the night sky with the original footage of the lights over Tinley Park. 379 00:30:40,286 --> 00:30:49,291 But Ted's analysis proved the lights were connected by something solid, so if this was a hoax, it was rather elaborate. 380 00:30:51,293 --> 00:30:58,297 We suspect that there's a frame between the lights, an object between the lights that you can't see in the darkness. 381 00:30:58,297 --> 00:31:09,303 So what we're doing to test this out is we're building triangles out of the PVC pipe and attaching flares to the end of those corners. 382 00:31:09,303 --> 00:31:17,308 So in effect, we're making our own flying triangles out of flares and balloons. Let's see what they look like compared to the footage we have. 383 00:31:18,309 --> 00:31:28,315 As the team unloads their equipment, the weather begins to take a turn for the worse. Much worse. 384 00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:43,324 Bill and Pat manage to get the materials for the experiment inside, but the danger is far from over. 385 00:31:43,324 --> 00:31:46,325 They don't call this tornado alley by accident. 386 00:31:46,325 --> 00:31:53,330 I grew up in California. We just don't have this. I've seen lightning before. I've heard a little bit of thunder. 387 00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:56,331 What can I say? Welcome to Illinois. 388 00:31:59,333 --> 00:32:04,336 As you can hear, we've got a lot of bad weather coming in. 389 00:32:04,336 --> 00:32:10,340 The team is in rural Illinois, in a controlled environment supervised by local authorities. 390 00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:16,343 In spite of the weather, the team soldiers on, building the PVC frame. 391 00:32:16,343 --> 00:32:23,347 Three weather balloons, five feet in diameter, are filled with helium gas and attached to the frame. 392 00:32:23,347 --> 00:32:28,350 But it soon becomes apparent that the frame is too heavy for the balloons to lift. 393 00:32:29,351 --> 00:32:35,355 The larger we got, the heavier the frame got, and the more impossible it was for the balloons to lift this thing. 394 00:32:35,355 --> 00:32:41,358 So it just seems like if they're describing a giant triangle, there's just no way these balloons could lift this thing. 395 00:32:41,358 --> 00:32:47,362 It would take possibly hundreds or even thousands of balloons to lift a structure that large. 396 00:32:48,362 --> 00:32:53,365 They know from Ted's analysis the object is massive, and the lights are connected. 397 00:32:53,365 --> 00:32:56,367 It's unclear how such a hoax could be possible. 398 00:32:56,367 --> 00:33:05,372 Still, the team works to get the balloons airborne and in formation in order to compare the flares to the strange lights on the videos. 399 00:33:07,374 --> 00:33:11,376 I think the lightning has passed. We may have a window to launch. 400 00:33:11,376 --> 00:33:15,378 Sam Moranto and several eyewitnesses from 2004. 401 00:33:15,378 --> 00:33:21,382 Bill Dooley and his son Nick and Bob Peterson and his son Tyler arrive for the test. 402 00:33:22,383 --> 00:33:32,389 Since they saw the lights with the naked eye originally, they're the best witnesses to tell us, hey, this looks like the lights we saw. This didn't look like the lights we saw. 403 00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:40,393 For test purposes, they've also brought the same cameras they filmed the Tinley Park lights with in August of 2004. 404 00:33:41,394 --> 00:33:53,401 So what we want to do is maybe use their cameras to take footage of the balloons that we launch and compare them to their footage from 2004. Let's see how it matches up. 405 00:33:55,402 --> 00:34:02,406 The three balloons are attached on a line at 15-foot intervals. A flare is then suspended from each balloon. 406 00:34:03,407 --> 00:34:05,408 Gentlemen, wire flares. 407 00:34:11,412 --> 00:34:13,413 It's not even a launch. 408 00:34:13,413 --> 00:34:14,414 One two. 409 00:34:14,414 --> 00:34:16,415 Go ahead, Jake. 410 00:34:16,415 --> 00:34:36,427 Music 411 00:34:36,427 --> 00:34:44,431 While Sam and the team have only seen the video evidence of the Tinley Park lights, Bob, Bill and their sons are eyewitnesses. 412 00:34:44,431 --> 00:34:57,439 They know firsthand what the object looked like in 2004, the quality of the colors, the way it held its triangular form and how it moved across the night sky. 413 00:35:00,441 --> 00:35:09,446 Now what we saw in the summer of 2004 was much steadier flow of light, not jerking around like they did. The color was bright red like you'd see a light on top of a cell tower. 414 00:35:10,447 --> 00:35:13,449 This was more orange, more pink, so no, nothing like it. 415 00:35:15,450 --> 00:35:24,455 Bob Peterson's initial impression is that the 2004 lights are a hoax, but this demonstration has given him a new perspective. 416 00:35:25,456 --> 00:35:32,460 Based on what I saw tonight, no, I don't think it was a flare. There was just too much that was different about it. 417 00:35:33,461 --> 00:35:44,467 He thought they were flares, but now he's looking at flares and he says they did not behave the way the lights behave when he first saw them on August 21st and October 31st. 418 00:35:45,468 --> 00:36:05,480 A final meeting with Sam Moranto reveals that the night of the original sighting, August 21st, 2004, may be part of a worldwide UFO flap, and Tinley Park's history of UFO sightings didn't begin in 2004. 419 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:21,489 As you may have already found out and have some indication, this area has been a hotbed for activity. Project Blue Book, the Air Force, actual investigation into UFO phenomena, actually had one of their cases here in Tinley Park. 420 00:36:22,490 --> 00:36:23,490 What was the case? 421 00:36:23,490 --> 00:36:34,497 The case was two young men seeing an unusual object. They reported it and it was investigated and still remains unknown. And that was in the early 60s. 422 00:36:35,498 --> 00:36:39,500 Was there any other activity around the case that we're working with now? 423 00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:43,502 I tell you one thing, Pat, we had August a hot month. 424 00:36:43,502 --> 00:36:56,510 Objects very similar to what was seen out here was seen on the 18th in Canada. On the 19th we had that object over Minneapolis, St. Paul hovering there for a period of almost nine hours. 425 00:36:57,511 --> 00:37:10,518 Then here we go, the 21st in Tinley Park. After that, Houston, Texas. A few hours later into the 23rd, what do we have in Melbourne, Australia? Same thing again. 426 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,523 Is it possible that these were all sightings of the same object? 427 00:37:17,523 --> 00:37:19,524 What was the date of the Australia sighting? 428 00:37:20,524 --> 00:37:25,527 The Australia sighting was on the 23rd, but remember their date line is ahead of us by 16 hours. 429 00:37:25,527 --> 00:37:31,531 What are the chances of these lights popping up here in Australia a couple days later? 430 00:37:32,532 --> 00:37:42,537 Sam Moranto has uncovered video from Australia that appears to show two of the Tinley Park type objects seen here for the first time. 431 00:37:42,537 --> 00:37:44,539 Oh no, my battery's running out. 432 00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:56,546 On September 30th, 2005, the same configuration of lights returns to Tinley Park and again is widely seen and taped by the residents. 433 00:37:56,546 --> 00:38:08,553 The object appears to be the same one seen in 2004 and yet another sighting occurs barely a month later on October 31st, Halloween, 2005. 434 00:38:09,554 --> 00:38:16,558 With all of the evidence gathered for this case, the team waits for Ted to weigh in on the experiment. 435 00:38:17,558 --> 00:38:25,563 How will the new footage stand up to the original 2004 video of the mysterious lights over Tinley Park? 436 00:38:29,565 --> 00:38:37,570 When I saw those three lights in the footage, nothing came to mind instantly that, hey, oh, that's a commercial airliner, that's a helicopter. 437 00:38:37,570 --> 00:38:42,573 I'm very intrigued. There's something unusual there and I hope to get to the bottom of it. 438 00:38:44,574 --> 00:38:51,579 Now, with footage in hand, Ted and Terrence are preparing to scrutinize several aspects of Bill and Pat's experiment. 439 00:38:53,580 --> 00:39:02,585 Even with an absolutely perfectly still, calm atmosphere, you're still going to get this kind of unrelated, random motion to these three points. 440 00:39:03,586 --> 00:39:08,589 Now, of course, in this case, there was actually some kind of wind and they're just all over the place. 441 00:39:08,589 --> 00:39:17,594 As Bill and Pat noted in the field, their balloons behaved erratically in the wind in stark contrast to the 2004 footage. 442 00:39:19,595 --> 00:39:27,600 According to National Weather Service data, on the night of the experiment, winds are clocked at 12 miles per hour. 443 00:39:28,601 --> 00:39:33,604 In 2004, the winds are more than twice as strong at 30 miles per hour. 444 00:39:34,604 --> 00:39:39,607 Yet the lights do not exhibit the same erratic behavior as the flares and balloons. 445 00:39:40,608 --> 00:39:48,613 I mean, I can imagine a tether, like a nylon filament tether, but that would only limit the distance this way, but not this way. 446 00:39:48,613 --> 00:39:54,616 And we're seeing that they're not kind of bouncing in towards one another and hitting outer limits. They're locked. 447 00:39:55,617 --> 00:40:03,621 What this seems to reinforce to the team is that the 2004 lights must be locked in place via some form of rigid structure. 448 00:40:03,621 --> 00:40:09,625 Without this, the lights should exhibit the same volatile behavior as the experiment video. 449 00:40:11,626 --> 00:40:17,630 The longer it holds that configuration, the stronger and stronger the case that they are actually locked. 450 00:40:19,631 --> 00:40:21,632 That's a pretty important conclusion. 451 00:40:21,632 --> 00:40:25,635 It's definitely not three independent floating flares. 452 00:40:27,636 --> 00:40:35,641 But does this prove that the witnesses in Tinley Park and other locations around the world photographed a flying craft? 453 00:40:38,642 --> 00:40:45,647 Ted and Terrence also want to contrast the color and light quality of the flares in comparison to the original footage. 454 00:40:46,647 --> 00:40:49,649 Unfortunately, it's very hard to tell with these consumer-grade cameras. 455 00:40:49,649 --> 00:40:54,652 The exposure settings and the sensitivity is such that you can shoot dramatically different colored lights, 456 00:40:54,652 --> 00:40:59,655 and very often you're going to see them basically bloom to almost solid white. 457 00:40:59,655 --> 00:41:04,658 The biggest difference that's pretty clear to me is the intensity differences. 458 00:41:04,658 --> 00:41:09,661 The flickering, basically, for lack of a better word, is very evident in the flares. 459 00:41:10,661 --> 00:41:16,665 Ted and Terrence also look for scintillation, any fluctuation in the quality of the light. 460 00:41:17,666 --> 00:41:23,669 A constant light source will have less scintillation than a less stable source like the flares. 461 00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:31,674 To me, it's actually an illuminated source. It's very clear, you know, some kind of light as opposed to some kind of burning combustion, 462 00:41:31,674 --> 00:41:34,676 which will have its own variability. 463 00:41:35,676 --> 00:41:38,678 But Terrence brings up another intriguing point of comparison. 464 00:41:38,678 --> 00:41:48,684 The experiment clearly shows the flares dropping residue, but in the original video from 2004, there is no evidence of any residue. 465 00:41:51,686 --> 00:41:58,690 I'd love to be able to say that our experiment and our analysis of the evidence leaves us with a very credible explanation. 466 00:41:58,690 --> 00:42:01,692 This was flares floating on balloons. 467 00:42:01,692 --> 00:42:08,696 But I can't say that. I think it's extremely unlikely that that is the explanation for what we have here. 468 00:42:10,697 --> 00:42:20,703 I could say definitively that there's no way that I can see any kind of tethered balloon light source flare or otherwise would be responsible for the footage that we have. 469 00:42:21,704 --> 00:42:29,708 Without saying it's an alien spacecraft, I can definitively say by the strictest definition it is an unidentified flying object. 470 00:42:35,712 --> 00:42:41,716 The Tinley Park case is a really interesting case to me. We've got a lot of data. We have a lot of witness testimony. 471 00:42:41,716 --> 00:42:48,720 We were able to do some extremely quantitative scientific analysis of our evidence to the best of my ability. 472 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:54,723 I can't put my finger on an explanation to say, oh, it was something terrestrial. 473 00:42:54,723 --> 00:43:00,727 All I can say is that I can't explain what it is, and yet is a highly credible corroborated case. 474 00:43:00,727 --> 00:43:06,731 So there's something there, and I can't explain what it is, and that is very intriguing to me. 475 00:43:11,734 --> 00:43:17,737 I believe we have a genuine anomalous aerial event that occurred over Tinley Park in 2004. 476 00:43:17,737 --> 00:43:21,739 Some people say it was a hoax, but we have no evidence that it was a hoax. 477 00:43:21,739 --> 00:43:28,744 Now I know in other UFO cases, pilots, both military and civilian, have come across these orbs of light, and that could be what we're dealing with here. 478 00:43:28,744 --> 00:43:31,745 So in my opinion, this case is still open. 479 00:43:32,746 --> 00:43:38,750 You have to ask yourself, are these people seeing the same object in the sky? 480 00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:43,753 Is this a worldwide UFO phenomenon, or is this a worldwide UFO hoax? 481 00:43:47,755 --> 00:43:54,759 Both scientific and subjective testimony suggests that the object was not flares attached to weather balloons. 482 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,763 Video analysis reveals something of massive size. 483 00:44:02,764 --> 00:44:10,769 Does the Tinley Park mass sighting and the mountain of visual evidence around it provide a glimpse of an actual UFO? 484 00:44:11,769 --> 00:44:16,772 Or are the answers still floating somewhere in the skies above Tinley Park?